The Difference Between Me and Darren Rowse

Darren Rowse is, as you probably know, the guy behind ProBlogger. If you are interested in blogging, then chances are you know who Darren is. He is considered to be the creator of the concept of professional blogging.

Darren is a stand-up guy. He knows his stuff and he is a super nice guy. I had the opportunity to meet him and talk to him for awhile at BlogWorld last year, and I expect I’ll see him again at BlogWorld this year. I believe he’ll be at Izeafest as well, so I’ll see him there for sure.

There is a fairly fundamental difference, though, between Darren and myself…

What got me thinking of this was a strange tweet that came out of nowhere from somebody I don’t know. The tweet stated:

@problogger is quite better than @davidrisley’s blog. I compare them because they both have the same purpose: to blog about blogging.

Interesting. And I wouldn’t even begin to disagree, actually. Problogger.Net is the flagship site in this market and I wouldn’t assume that I’m better than that. I’ll let my audience decide.

But, what it reminded me of is that my approach and Darren’s approach is different. While Darren has strong focus on blogging and the act of building a blog, my focus leans more toward the blog as a hub for business by employing MARKETING. I get into concepts of marketing that I don’t see Darren touch on.

What I try to do on this blog is bridge the gap between blogging and internet marketing. I believe STRONGLY that a competent blogger who understood how to market their own products can absolutely KILL IT on the Internet. Six figure incomes could be the norm.

ProBlogger is an awesome blog, but it is not a marketing blog. Darren Rowse just recently stepped into the field of marketing a bit when he launched his 31 Days To Build a Better Blog book. If Darren begins doing launches like that more often, he will make significantly more money due to his position in this market.

My guess, however, is that his approach will remain different than traditional internet marketing. I suspect it is against Darren’s nature to overtly market products to his audience. In his post about 13 lessons he learned while launching that product, he talks about how he was too shy to market this product aggressively.

That’s the primary difference between us. Every person who blogs about blogging brings their own style and approach. Darren, Yaro, John….we all do it our own way.

I look at myself as a blog marketer. I am a student of online marketing, and I use blogs as part of the overall strategy.

And I also have a pretty different style of going about it and communicating it to my readers. :)

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  • http://www.sachin-db.net/ Sachin

    Though I don’t blog to market, I am very interested in the fact that people can make money through it. Don’t you fear that “pro-blogging” becomes saturated as time goes by?

    Great article, and definitely different in style from those of Darren.

  • http://www.sachin-db.net Sachin

    Though I don’t blog to market, I am very interested in the fact that people can make money through it. Don’t you fear that “pro-blogging” becomes saturated as time goes by?

    Great article, and definitely different in style from those of Darren.

  • BobHereYo

    I would have to agree with you 100%, there is a difference and you have hit the nail right one the head. I stopped following Problogger because it did not relate to my business (software and consulting services) as I use my blog as a marketing platform first and foremost. Same goes for John Chow as well and I got tired of his posts showing me where and what he ate for dinner too (TMI). Nothing personal against them though, they all have their own styles and they make money with their followings…just not my flavor.

    How can you follow anyone you can’t relate to.

  • BobHereYo

    I would have to agree with you 100%, there is a difference and you have hit the nail right one the head. I stopped following Problogger because it did not relate to my business (software and consulting services) as I use my blog as a marketing platform first and foremost. Same goes for John Chow as well and I got tired of his posts showing me where and what he ate for dinner too (TMI). Nothing personal against them though, they all have their own styles and they make money with their followings…just not my flavor.

    How can you follow anyone you can’t relate to.

  • BobHereYo

    I would have to agree with you 100%, there is a difference and you have hit the nail right one the head. I stopped following Problogger because it did not relate to my business (software and consulting services) as I use my blog as a marketing platform first and foremost. Same goes for John Chow as well and I got tired of his posts showing me where and what he ate for dinner too (TMI). Nothing personal against them though, they all have their own styles and they make money with their followings…just not my flavor.

    How can you follow anyone you can’t relate to.

  • http://www.jrgriggs.net/ JR Griggs

    I read Problogger for writing better posts, getting more comments per posts etc…

    I read David Risley for setting up a better landing page, using better affiliate links etc…

    Combine the 2 and you can have a very nice and powerful combination.

  • http://www.jrgriggs.net/ JR Griggs

    I read Problogger for writing better posts, getting more comments per posts etc…

    I read David Risley for setting up a better landing page, using better affiliate links etc…

    Combine the 2 and you can have a very nice and powerful combination.

  • http://www.jrgriggs.net JR Griggs

    I read Problogger for writing better posts, getting more comments per posts etc…

    I read David Risley for setting up a better landing page, using better affiliate links etc…

    Combine the 2 and you can have a very nice and powerful combination.

  • http://jimijones.com/ Jimi Jones

    Hi David,

    I remember that Tweet coming across my TweetDeck and it really caught my attention. Glad you have addressed the subject.

    I read both blogs and clearly, there is a marked difference. Two great blogs, no doubt, but this blog enhances my learning experiences as related to being an all around blogger. If one is going to go “Pro” you will need some technical knowledge, marketing skills and high value content, which is what you have offered here and on PCMech.

    Additionally, I find very valuable content on ProBlogger as well, in terms of content generation and strictly blogging tactics and techniques.

    My blogging career is being built to position myself for the sustainable 6-figure income. To get there, I need to meld the knowledge gathered from the best in the business.

    Hey, you’re a nice likeable guy and all and I’ve been following you and this blog for quite some time now, but I’m not here by accident. You are providing what is required to reach the next level.

    Thanks for leading the way!

  • http://jimijones.com/ Jimi Jones

    Hi David,

    I remember that Tweet coming across my TweetDeck and it really caught my attention. Glad you have addressed the subject.

    I read both blogs and clearly, there is a marked difference. Two great blogs, no doubt, but this blog enhances my learning experiences as related to being an all around blogger. If one is going to go “Pro” you will need some technical knowledge, marketing skills and high value content, which is what you have offered here and on PCMech.

    Additionally, I find very valuable content on ProBlogger as well, in terms of content generation and strictly blogging tactics and techniques.

    My blogging career is being built to position myself for the sustainable 6-figure income. To get there, I need to meld the knowledge gathered from the best in the business.

    Hey, you’re a nice likeable guy and all and I’ve been following you and this blog for quite some time now, but I’m not here by accident. You are providing what is required to reach the next level.

    Thanks for leading the way!

  • http://blogonlinebiz.com Jimi Jones

    Hi David,

    I remember that Tweet coming across my TweetDeck and it really caught my attention. Glad you have addressed the subject.

    I read both blogs and clearly, there is a marked difference. Two great blogs, no doubt, but this blog enhances my learning experiences as related to being an all around blogger. If one is going to go “Pro” you will need some technical knowledge, marketing skills and high value content, which is what you have offered here and on PCMech.

    Additionally, I find very valuable content on ProBlogger as well, in terms of content generation and strictly blogging tactics and techniques.

    My blogging career is being built to position myself for the sustainable 6-figure income. To get there, I need to meld the knowledge gathered from the best in the business.

    Hey, you’re a nice likeable guy and all and I’ve been following you and this blog for quite some time now, but I’m not here by accident. You are providing what is required to reach the next level.

    Thanks for leading the way!

  • http://www.tshirtinsight.com/ Martin

    Another interesting post. I’m fairly new to your blog and in the past I have also had a bit of a look around the ProBlogger site. From my limited knowledge of both I would say your summary of the differences is pretty accurate. Not being quite sure if / how to get into the whole ‘blogging for money’ or internet marketing business I’d have to say that both sites offer me a lot at this stage and I’m hopeful I can learn from you guys.

  • http://www.tshirtinsight.com/ Martin

    Another interesting post. I’m fairly new to your blog and in the past I have also had a bit of a look around the ProBlogger site. From my limited knowledge of both I would say your summary of the differences is pretty accurate. Not being quite sure if / how to get into the whole ‘blogging for money’ or internet marketing business I’d have to say that both sites offer me a lot at this stage and I’m hopeful I can learn from you guys.

  • http://www.tshirtinsight.com/ Martin

    Another interesting post. I’m fairly new to your blog and in the past I have also had a bit of a look around the ProBlogger site. From my limited knowledge of both I would say your summary of the differences is pretty accurate. Not being quite sure if / how to get into the whole ‘blogging for money’ or internet marketing business I’d have to say that both sites offer me a lot at this stage and I’m hopeful I can learn from you guys.

  • http://retirerichroadmap.com/blog/ Mikael @ Retire Rich

    I don’t follow Darren’s blog anymore (primarily because I don’t blog just to blog) but I think you touch on a very interesting topic in the fact that Darren doesn’t sell more of his own products. I’m sure he has his reasons but if it were me I would definitely spend more time creating some valuable high-end stuff. He has the skills and the knowledge so I don’t know what is holding him back.

    Mikael

  • http://retirerichroadmap.com/blog/ Mikael @ Retire Rich

    I don’t follow Darren’s blog anymore (primarily because I don’t blog just to blog) but I think you touch on a very interesting topic in the fact that Darren doesn’t sell more of his own products. I’m sure he has his reasons but if it were me I would definitely spend more time creating some valuable high-end stuff. He has the skills and the knowledge so I don’t know what is holding him back.

    Mikael

  • http://retirerichroadmap.com/blog/ Mikael @ Retire Rich

    I don’t follow Darren’s blog anymore (primarily because I don’t blog just to blog) but I think you touch on a very interesting topic in the fact that Darren doesn’t sell more of his own products. I’m sure he has his reasons but if it were me I would definitely spend more time creating some valuable high-end stuff. He has the skills and the knowledge so I don’t know what is holding him back.

    Mikael

  • http://www.cadengrant.com/ Caden Grant

    Yes your blog and Darrens blog are a lot different but I prefer your blog over his blog. It’s all a matter of opinion. Who cares what that guy says. I honestly like your blog more than Darrens, although I do really like ProBlogger.

    But I still don’t visit problogger often, as where I visit yours pretty much every day.

    I think it’s mostly because you talk about about making money online blogging and he just blogs about blogging to blog, as Mikael put it.

  • http://www.cadengrant.com/ Caden Grant

    Yes your blog and Darrens blog are a lot different but I prefer your blog over his blog. It’s all a matter of opinion. Who cares what that guy says. I honestly like your blog more than Darrens, although I do really like ProBlogger.

    But I still don’t visit problogger often, as where I visit yours pretty much every day.

    I think it’s mostly because you talk about about making money online blogging and he just blogs about blogging to blog, as Mikael put it.

  • http://www.cadengrant.com Caden Grant

    Yes your blog and Darrens blog are a lot different but I prefer your blog over his blog. It’s all a matter of opinion. Who cares what that guy says. I honestly like your blog more than Darrens, although I do really like ProBlogger.

    But I still don’t visit problogger often, as where I visit yours pretty much every day.

    I think it’s mostly because you talk about about making money online blogging and he just blogs about blogging to blog, as Mikael put it.

  • Jake

    Yeah all you guys do the same thing…blog about how you make so much money online, then create products that suckers will buy to learn something that has been stated over and over again.

    Bunch of bs if you ask me. What about SEO? Keyword Rankings? Isn’t that where people go to buy things…the search engines? Social Networking is a lot of work, daily work too. SEO is not.

  • Jake

    Yeah all you guys do the same thing…blog about how you make so much money online, then create products that suckers will buy to learn something that has been stated over and over again.

    Bunch of bs if you ask me. What about SEO? Keyword Rankings? Isn’t that where people go to buy things…the search engines? Social Networking is a lot of work, daily work too. SEO is not.

  • Jake

    Yeah all you guys do the same thing…blog about how you make so much money online, then create products that suckers will buy to learn something that has been stated over and over again.

    Bunch of bs if you ask me. What about SEO? Keyword Rankings? Isn’t that where people go to buy things…the search engines? Social Networking is a lot of work, daily work too. SEO is not.

  • http://camerapatty.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/beyond-the-backyard/ Patty Reiser

    For what its worth, you and Darren both bring unique qualities to your blogs. That’s why I subscribe to them both because I like to be a well versed in blogging.

    Keep the posts coming as I do enjoy the learning.

    Wishing you a scent-sational day!
    Patty Reiser

  • http://camerapatty.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/beyond-the-backyard/ Patty Reiser

    For what its worth, you and Darren both bring unique qualities to your blogs. That’s why I subscribe to them both because I like to be a well versed in blogging.

    Keep the posts coming as I do enjoy the learning.

    Wishing you a scent-sational day!
    Patty Reiser

  • http://camerapatty.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/beyond-the-backyard/ Patty Reiser

    For what its worth, you and Darren both bring unique qualities to your blogs. That’s why I subscribe to them both because I like to be a well versed in blogging.

    Keep the posts coming as I do enjoy the learning.

    Wishing you a scent-sational day!
    Patty Reiser

  • http://deneilmerritt.com/ Deneil Merritt

    Both of you have different focuses so I wouldn’t compare the 2 of you. I read both of your blogs.

  • http://deneilmerritt.com/ Deneil Merritt

    Both of you have different focuses so I wouldn’t compare the 2 of you. I read both of your blogs.

  • http://deneilmerritt.com Deneil Merritt

    Both of you have different focuses so I wouldn’t compare the 2 of you. I read both of your blogs.

  • Anthony

    Jake,

    You obviously don’t follow David’s blog or if you are you’re not listening. David believes in blogging because you are passionate about something. If you’re blogging JUST to make money than forget it.

    SEO and Keyword rankings are extremely important, and yes, marketers using SEO tactics are dominating consumer markets online. The point of this blog is to change that (to some extent). It’s to empower bloggers with marketing knowledge.

    Being a trusted blogger with solid marketing skills (in a markets where there is demand) is a recipe to make some serious money. The first time I saw Chris Pirillo on Youtube, it was like someone switched a light on in my head. This is the future.

    People (especially those who grew up blogging themselves) aren’t going to be satisfied buying from sites that are not updated, have no video, and look like they were started in 1995, even if they show up first on google. It’s not going to be overnight, but it’s coming. The Internet is going to be full of gurus (not only in tech!) willing to show their face, educate, entertain, and sell products. Video is King!

    Get a front seat now and get ahead of the game. You’ll be saying “I shoulda” “coulda” “woulda” in a few years!

  • Anthony

    Jake,

    You obviously don’t follow David’s blog or if you are you’re not listening. David believes in blogging because you are passionate about something. If you’re blogging JUST to make money than forget it.

    SEO and Keyword rankings are extremely important, and yes, marketers using SEO tactics are dominating consumer markets online. The point of this blog is to change that (to some extent). It’s to empower bloggers with marketing knowledge.

    Being a trusted blogger with solid marketing skills (in a markets where there is demand) is a recipe to make some serious money. The first time I saw Chris Pirillo on Youtube, it was like someone switched a light on in my head. This is the future.

    People (especially those who grew up blogging themselves) aren’t going to be satisfied buying from sites that are not updated, have no video, and look like they were started in 1995, even if they show up first on google. It’s not going to be overnight, but it’s coming. The Internet is going to be full of gurus (not only in tech!) willing to show their face, educate, entertain, and sell products. Video is King!

    Get a front seat now and get ahead of the game. You’ll be saying “I shoulda” “coulda” “woulda” in a few years!

  • Anthony

    Jake,

    You obviously don’t follow David’s blog or if you are you’re not listening. David believes in blogging because you are passionate about something. If you’re blogging JUST to make money than forget it.

    SEO and Keyword rankings are extremely important, and yes, marketers using SEO tactics are dominating consumer markets online. The point of this blog is to change that (to some extent). It’s to empower bloggers with marketing knowledge.

    Being a trusted blogger with solid marketing skills (in a markets where there is demand) is a recipe to make some serious money. The first time I saw Chris Pirillo on Youtube, it was like someone switched a light on in my head. This is the future.

    People (especially those who grew up blogging themselves) aren’t going to be satisfied buying from sites that are not updated, have no video, and look like they were started in 1995, even if they show up first on google. It’s not going to be overnight, but it’s coming. The Internet is going to be full of gurus (not only in tech!) willing to show their face, educate, entertain, and sell products. Video is King!

    Get a front seat now and get ahead of the game. You’ll be saying “I shoulda” “coulda” “woulda” in a few years!

  • http://blog.sd360.com/ Brent

    Interesting way to associate yourself with Darren and the other bloggers you mentioned. Good marketing technique.

  • http://blog.sd360.com/ Brent

    Interesting way to associate yourself with Darren and the other bloggers you mentioned. Good marketing technique.

  • http://blog.sd360.com Brent

    Interesting way to associate yourself with Darren and the other bloggers you mentioned. Good marketing technique.

  • http://www.LearnFinancialPlanning.com/ Shaun

    That’s why I read your blog now rather than ProBlogger. The blog is great from a “rock star” business model perspective… but it’s unrealistic for most people.

    The blog almost seems to be more about blogging than pro-blogging.

    And your content kicks ass. I basically agree with everything you’ve been saying, and have been planning my “own” mmo blog specifically about the marketing/monetization aspect. :P

    Keep it up! You rock.

  • http://www.LearnFinancialPlanning.com/ Shaun

    That’s why I read your blog now rather than ProBlogger. The blog is great from a “rock star” business model perspective… but it’s unrealistic for most people.

    The blog almost seems to be more about blogging than pro-blogging.

    And your content kicks ass. I basically agree with everything you’ve been saying, and have been planning my “own” mmo blog specifically about the marketing/monetization aspect. :P

    Keep it up! You rock.

  • http://www.LearnFinancialPlanning.com Shaun

    That’s why I read your blog now rather than ProBlogger. The blog is great from a “rock star” business model perspective… but it’s unrealistic for most people.

    The blog almost seems to be more about blogging than pro-blogging.

    And your content kicks ass. I basically agree with everything you’ve been saying, and have been planning my “own” mmo blog specifically about the marketing/monetization aspect. :P

    Keep it up! You rock.

  • Molly

    David,
    I love it that you and Darren not only know each other, but respect each other.
    Brent, David ‘associates’ himself w/Darren because they’re on the same level in a lot of ways, share a love of blogging, the internet, it’s possibilities and his post is right on target. David doesn’t need to throw names around. He IS a ‘name’.
    btw, Darren mentioned David on his Facebook the other day. Is Darren ‘associating’ himself w/David as a marketing technique or just acknowledging a friendship/mutually beneficial relationship? I already know the answer as I’ve followed both for a few years.

  • Molly

    David,
    I love it that you and Darren not only know each other, but respect each other.
    Brent, David ‘associates’ himself w/Darren because they’re on the same level in a lot of ways, share a love of blogging, the internet, it’s possibilities and his post is right on target. David doesn’t need to throw names around. He IS a ‘name’.
    btw, Darren mentioned David on his Facebook the other day. Is Darren ‘associating’ himself w/David as a marketing technique or just acknowledging a friendship/mutually beneficial relationship? I already know the answer as I’ve followed both for a few years.

  • Molly

    David,
    I love it that you and Darren not only know each other, but respect each other.
    Brent, David ‘associates’ himself w/Darren because they’re on the same level in a lot of ways, share a love of blogging, the internet, it’s possibilities and his post is right on target. David doesn’t need to throw names around. He IS a ‘name’.
    btw, Darren mentioned David on his Facebook the other day. Is Darren ‘associating’ himself w/David as a marketing technique or just acknowledging a friendship/mutually beneficial relationship? I already know the answer as I’ve followed both for a few years.

  • http://blog.sd360.com/ Brent

    Molly, I agree completely with you, just saying it is a good marketing technique to generate some buzz. Nothing negative at all.

  • http://blog.sd360.com/ Brent

    Molly, I agree completely with you, just saying it is a good marketing technique to generate some buzz. Nothing negative at all.

  • http://blog.sd360.com Brent

    Molly, I agree completely with you, just saying it is a good marketing technique to generate some buzz. Nothing negative at all.

  • http://www.pcmech.com/ David

    I didn’t really intend it as a marketing technique, but thanks. :) I know that almost all of my readers here also read ProBlogger and I’m simply pointing out the difference.

  • http://www.pcmech.com/ David

    I didn’t really intend it as a marketing technique, but thanks. :) I know that almost all of my readers here also read ProBlogger and I’m simply pointing out the difference.

  • http://www.pcmech.com David

    I didn’t really intend it as a marketing technique, but thanks. :) I know that almost all of my readers here also read ProBlogger and I’m simply pointing out the difference.

  • Anonymous

    When compared to Darren Rowse – it means to be a compliment :) .

    Bask in the happiness but … watch out, probably you are getting yourself in to the probloggers circle where competition is far more aggressive :) ;)

    All I meant was in a happy note… good blog :)

  • Anonymous

    When compared to Darren Rowse – it means to be a compliment :) .

    Bask in the happiness but … watch out, probably you are getting yourself in to the probloggers circle where competition is far more aggressive :) ;)

    All I meant was in a happy note… good blog :)

  • http://www.ipenthisblog.com Ganesh

    When compared to Darren Rowse – it means to be a compliment :) .

    Bask in the happiness but … watch out, probably you are getting yourself in to the probloggers circle where competition is far more aggressive :) ;)

    All I meant was in a happy note… good blog :)