Oh Sh**, Another Damn Product Launch?!

Launch fatigue.

Its been an item of discussion lately in some circles, including by Dave Navarro, who had a great article about it. He also mentions a piece over at Productive Flourishing.

May was a pretty packed month for product launches – in this market. And those of you who pay attention to it all were feeling pretty inundated and ganged up on. Some of the big annoyances I’m seeing out there are:

  • Artificial scarcity plays. Let’s face it, most of this stuff is digital so you need to have a pretty compelling reason to limit availability on something that is digital.
  • Over-hype. Calling something the best thing since sliced bread when it isn’t. I think I’ve seen about every possible way to hype something, but I constantly find more.
  • Tugged in multiple directions. When you have a perfect storm of launches like there was in May, consumers feel ripped apart. And as any marketer will tell you, when you give people too many options, they’ll often just choose none of them.

As Navarro correctly stated, it isn’t product launches that are the problem. It is the repeated pattern.

You know it when you see it. The “shot across the bow”, as Jeff Walker puts it. Then, the prelaunch with the obligatory 3 launch videos. Throw in a few “gee shucks” emails. Then, the sales video. Launch on a Tuesday. Open for one week. Hype hype hype. Ooohhh… its closing soon and you better buy now! Did I mention buy NOW? OK, gone. And in some cases, make up some bullshit reason to open it again.

Its a PATTERN and those of us in this market see it repeated over and over again. Sometimes, launches overlap in a crazy way and the market just gets pissed off. In May, that happened.

It is going to get worse, too. I have a couple of good friends working on a done-for-you launch platform which is going to ROCK. I also know that Andy Jenkins is soon going to launch Kajabi. What does all this mean?

Product launches are going to become commoditized. The pattern, in some niches, is going to become so recognizable it’ll flow like a bad horror movie and be about as predictable as one.

Let’s Get Real For A Minute

If you’re paying attention to a bunch of people whose job it is to teach others how to generate money on the Internet, don’t be surprised when they sell stuff to you.

That’s what we do. :)

But, you know what? The rest of the Internet is out there. The “make money” market is pretty saturated, and the “make money blogging” market is getting that way. Other markets? They don’t recognize the launch pattern. You could pull off even downright corny launches and they’ll work better in other markets.

They don’t understand the pattern. But, the launch pattern is nothing new. Jeff Walker didn’t invent it. It has been used to launch everything from movies, music albums, new shows on TV, computers, software. You name it, it goes through a product launch campaign.

The only difference is that those campaigns are targeted primarily to people who don’t understand launches. They don’t think like marketers.

So, don’t become an advocate for the “un-launch”. It won’t work. Calling everything a “trick” and knee-jerking the other direction will lead you to nothing.

You can’t just put products out there and hope they get noticed. If you’re in a market which isn’t used to launches, then the usual pattern will work. If you’re in the “make money” market in any way, then you need to begin thinking outside the box. And that’s because you’re…

Guilty Until Proven Innocent

It is a fact. Once a market reaches a point of saturation, all your prospects will have their guard up – immediately. Because they’re expecting you to try to hammer them like a piñata until money falls out.

They’ll think that everything is a strategy and a tactic, almost to the point where they’ll come up with conspiracy theories and make up back-stories. You know, the “I bet he faked that server crash to make it look really busy” kind of crap.

[Reality Check: Anybody who wants your money is never going to make it so you can’t pay them. Server crashes as marketing stunts? It is a myth. Move on.]

If you follow the usual launch pattern, they’ll see it coming from a mile away. Your job, then, is a lot harder. You have to convince people to want your product who’ve already decided they’re not going to buy it. They’ll just get what they can from your prelaunch videos, then move on.

There are some products being launched that are REALLY, REALLY GOOD. People would benefit from them immensely, yet they get written off because they see it as “just another damn launch”.

What To Do About It

I see many new marketers make the mistake of thinking if you’re not one of “those marketer people”, then people are going to like you more and buy your stuff.

Wrong. It won’t work.

Marketing always needs to be done. The question is – HOW?

You’ve got to stir up the typical launch pattern. You want to have an event which is worth paying attention to, not just another shitty launch. So, some ideas off the top of my head might include:

  • Incorporating live events. Webinars still work really well as long as you provide a lot of value. But, what about live broadcasting like Ustream? When I wrapped up my last launch of Blog Masters, I spent the entire last day on Ustream, answering people’s questions. When’s the last time we saw one of these “gurus” hop on Ustream for a day? They probably write it off as a waste of time, but they have no idea how much that will demystify them and make them more real to their market. I also love the concept of the “virtual happy hour” that Nathan Hangen and Susan Baker are using on the Bootstrap Sessions launch. That’s disrupting the pattern. Very cool.
  • Viral Campaigns. There are a number of things you could do to engineer viral promotions. I’m talking about more than just putting a retweet button on a page. What about having people create videos on Youtube to enter some kind of contest or giveaway that coincides with your launch? Get creative.
  • Insane, INSANE value. Real value always works. I’ve seen some launches where the prelaunch stuff is literally so good that the word gets spread quickly. And not by affiliates, just people who think the stuff is awesome.
  • Art. Don’t just give information. Make it into art. Make it creative, compelling and artistic. For example, when Jenkins launched his video course, the Internet was abuzz at the quality of his videos. When Kern launched List Control, the Internet was abuzz at the MTV-like quality of his videos. Can you make your product truly a work of art?
  • Audience Involvement. You can actually engage your audience in the actual creation and leadup to your product. It is like a story that they’re following along with. There are a number of ways to do that.

It comes down to just BEING REAL.

I find that we’re all just DESPERATE for people who are just real with us, upfront, and honest. We’d rather do business with a dude we feel like we KNOW than some huge marketer who sits in a San Diego mansion and only emails us affiliate links.

This is why bloggers can do so well when executing product launches. If you know the marketing, know the pattern, but know how to shake it up just enough and keep your audience engaged because you are ACTUALLY engaged – you’ll crush it. You’ll absolutely crush it.

So, Tell Me This

So, here’s what I want to know from you.

Chances are, if you read my blog, you probably read some other bloggers in the same kind of niche. And you’re interested in making money from your blog and living the lifestyle that comes with it.

That being said, you’ve seen a lot of launches. And you’re going to see more. I’m going to be launching stuff, too, so it isn’t as if I don’t have a pawn in this chess match. :)

So, what would YOU like to see? What ideas do you have?

What would you like for me to do for you?

I welcome your comments.

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  • http://flavor-of-success.com Edward Nigma

    Just be honest when you do a launch and the rest is pretty obvious.

  • http://experimentsinpassiveincome.com Moon Hussain

    David, I do hate all of the shenanigans like “pre-order now”. Why? It's a digital product and there's no reason to pre-order…?? Stop hyping the product with an ugly sales page and horrible videos.

    I'm not 'that kind' of a buyer. I don't like it when digital products are sold this way. Like Edward said, be honest and you'll get an honest kind of buyer.

  • http://flavor-of-success.com Edward Nigma

    Ah, pre-ordering something is a really pain in buyer's @ss

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Well, I don't see anything wrong with pre-ordering. That would be based on an assumption that ANY kind of sale is dishonest, which isn't true. Just because a product is digital doesn't mean the creator cannot offer deals for valid reasons.

  • http://www.mikeslife.org Mike CJ

    Just be honest when you launch? Thanks for that pearl of wisdom!

  • http://www.tonyteegarden.com Tony Teegarden

    There's nothing wrong with a pre-order of a digitial product. It serves a couple of different purposes for both the buyer and the seller.

    1. The buyer gets the product at a “real” discount. Such as %50 off and the seller get's feedback on the product before going for the full scale launch.
    2. The seller also get's a cushion of cash to to work/live on as they are completing the process.

    I don't care what anyone says. Product creation (videos, PDF's, Audio, graphics etc) it all takes work. I don't care what anyone leads you to beleive.

    This isn't non-profit and I believe it comes down to your perception of abundance on whether or not there is anything “dishonest” about pre-sales. There are many peeps like Dave and Nathan for example who are extremely ethical marketers.

    Pre-sales are not dishonest. It's an opportunity for both parties to benefit before going to market with the full product.

  • http://jimijones.com/ Jimi Jones

    I still find it a bit odd that people will do things off-line, like pre-order video gaming systems, phones and iPads and wait for weeks until the manufacturer delivers. Online, it's an issue for many.

    A similar circumstance exists with affiliate marketing. Your friend may insist that you go to dinner at a certain restaurant because the food and service was great, receiving nothing for the referral, but online it's often an issue. Must be a trust thing.

  • http://www.marsdorian.com/ Mars Dorian

    Valid post, especially today

    I agree with the over-launch process. Most people just churn out one product after another – the you-have-seen-it-a-gazillion times. Making ART and giving away sick amount of value is also a grrreat combination.

    I believe it all comes down to caring about your client and improving his life as much as possible.

  • http://www.marsdorian.com/ Mars Dorian

    Valid post, especially today

    I agree with the over-launch process. Most people just churn out one product after another – the you-have-seen-it-a-gazillion times. Making ART and giving away sick amount of value is also a grrreat combination.

    I believe it all comes down to caring about your client and improving his life as much as possible.

  • http://www.mikeslife.org Mike CJ

    I thought the U Streaming was an inspired idea, and suspect it contributed to the success of BMC. Trouble is, if we all start doing it, it becomes a damn pattern again!

    I've been thinking about this for days now and following the debate. I'm not clear in my head yet, but I'm thinking that one option is to create a real “story” around the launch, something that inspires general interest, rather than just focusing on potential buyers. I think Guillebeau was on the right lines with his train journey launch, but I'm working on some more interesting options.

  • http://www.genyrockstars.com Greg Rollett

    Good points David! Something I echoed in the comments over on Navarro's post.

    I really like what you said about getting in front of the audience and engaging with them – especially with a medium like uStream. The launch I am in the middle of has been great b/c of the community getting involved. We have them asking questions, then we actually answer them, one by one. This makes them feel like they are a part of the big picture.

    There is nothing wrong with marketing to them. One of the things I learned from Kern is to just be upfront. In all the blog posts this week I have started them by saying something like, “so here's another video to pre-launch our product. The video kicks ass and will help you, but yea its part of a launch. Next week we will be back to our regular awesome posts and stuff.”

    The other thing I am scared of are the Kajabi's and the project your people are working on to make launches turn-key. That is going to hurt the market IMO.

    What we need to do is really take the time and learn the market we are in. In my niche, the music industry, they are used to album launches, but not product launches, so I have a little wiggle room. But I need to build that trust first, give them cool stuff and show them that I can change their business. If everyone starts thinking about helping their market first, and not the one size fits all so I am going to make a ton of cash motto, we will start to see some cool stuff evolve.

    Have a good weekend bro.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Thanks Greg.

    I'm not sure if Kajabi and the other thing will hurt the market, tho. It will just make the people who succeed really need to step up their game. The guys that I know who are working on a launch platform are very legitimately trying to remove the usual technical hurdles of doing a product launch. It isn't going to make the launch for them, but just make it so you don't have to battle the server gods. :-)

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Absolutely. There are any number of ways to make a launch interesting. UStream just happens bo be one that I did.

    And, yes, from my experience with BMC, my 2 biggest contributions to closing sales was the webinar at the beginning, and Ustream at the end. Both live events.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Funny how it always comes back to those basics. :-)

  • http://LisaMorosky.com Lisa Morosky

    So, Mike, on the next launch of Beyond Blogging – quit planning everything and strategizing. Just scrap it all. Just be honest, and it'll all fall into place. Phew. I bet that makes you feel better.

    ;)

    Yeah, blanket statements like this do nothing for those who actually want to learn and grow.

  • http://www.genyrockstars.com Greg Rollett

    Now that I can rock with. I have no issues with getting rid of some of the technical stuff!

  • dispointer

    Its the time to rise up the matter as you did . Good job . I felt disturbed with all the automated responder. Even try to give the correct e-mail still required to retyped again. I`ve received repeated mail 4 to 6 times. flooded my list. I lost my track with you because I did subscribe others.

  • http://www.nextlevelblogger.com/about Christian Russell

    None of the sales tactics marketers use these days are new. They're all old as hell actually. Selling stuff isn't a new game…the internet is simply a new(er) platform for it. No one has ever liked being sold. The issue is not in coming up with a new tactic or a new formula. There aren't any new tactics. The way to get past this “launch fatigue” phenomenon is to simply build your network, sell to people who TRUST you, and don't worry about everyone else who bitches.

  • http://virginbloggernotes.com/ virginbloggernotes

    Show me the product and let me decide if I want it.

    I know that's an oversimplification, but the reason I signed up for Blog Masters was because of the webinar you held. You walked us through the program step-by-step . . 'here's what's in this module, here's what you'll learn, etc.” Nothing came across as hype, there was a ton of valuable free information handed out on the webinar, and I could see how the product would meet my needs.

    Granted, the tough part is getting people to that webinar, but low key and conversational works better for me than the hard core stuff. Even though I'm in this business and know how it works, I don't trust people once they start hitting me with the old style launches. I automatically think their product is a scammy piece of crap. Not fair, but it's a gut reaction.

  • http://www.gurls-asylum.us Gurl

    I will be blogging about this from a consumer's standpoint next week. I am sick of sales pages that are so long it takes me 2 to 3 minutes to scan it. I don't want walls of testimonials, two or three really well done ones will suffice. I don't want seven lists of what I am getting or a long list of “bonuses” that you claim are worth more than the product I am buying. I am sick of “join now before the price goes up” campaigns that last a week or more. I know some of these tactics are used by people like yourself, but it does seem to be the marketing norm for those who aren't using a blog as a platform to get out there and get known. Most annoying, I say.

  • remarkablogger

    This is why I didn't promote nearly any of the horde of launches that recently took place. Did I leave money on the table? Surely. But sometimes too much is just too much.

    I like your points on what to do about it. The fact is, the more your customers trust you, the less obvious of a launch you have to do (though you still have to do one).

  • kiesha_WeBlogBetter

    I like the idea of making Art of it – if you can engage and entertain me while I actually learn what I need to know to succeed at this thing – in practical ways that can actually be done without having to become total hostage to the computer – that's what I'd like to see.
    And I'd like a product that promises what it says it will. At the end I want to feel as if I got what I paid for – I don't have money to waste.

  • joe

    Good article, guess I'm showing my innocence..but is there ever a product launch that isn't about making money on the internet.? Can't someone have a tool or calculator or something that doesn't ring with spammy make big money on the internet.?

    Businesses talk about how the internet is to open all these markets and level playing field..blah, blah blah, but they still want your phone # they still want to send you a 100' long sales letter to overcome all your objections..just seems like the majority of crap has switched from direct mail to the internet..

    Had a blogger that I followed, good reliable info. had talked to him personally online a couple of times, answered commets etc…then all of a sudden he talks about this FREE!!! report then some big long sales letter…it's like the conversation stopped and the carnival barker began..Was disapppointed.

  • http://www.heroicdestiny.com David Crandall

    I wrote about the same exact thing today. I think the only real way to change things from what we saw last month (in this niche) is to put as much effort in to making the launch art as we do the product.

    The “make money” market is a subset of the “marketing” market. It says a lot about the quality of what someone is trying to teach me about marketing by how they choose to actually market THEIR product. I can't possibly think they have much new to say if their launch looks just like everyone else.

    I do agree though that all of these tactics that look worn out to us would do amazing in markets that have not seen them.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Perhaps you have tunnel vision on launches. Launches are happening everywhere. Did you see what Apple just did with the Ipad?

    I've done launch campaigns for my tech site, too. Worked there.

    A launch is just a marketing campaign. It works in LOTS of places, not just make money markets.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Yeah same here. I got approached for many launches in May and didn't promote any of them. I was going to promote Navarro's because I like his stuff, but I was a bit late to the punch. Just too slow. :-)

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    I personally think long-form sales letters are so MUCH the pattern that they don't work well anymore. I'm about to relaunch 3DayMoney.com and will be completely ditching the long-form letter. And when I relaunch Blog Masters, same thing.

    As for bonuses, etc, that's just marketing. Not a ploy. Now, assigning uber-high price tags to them, that CAN be a ploy. I've seen people throw in graphics/icon packs as bonuses and say “valued at $497″ when I know full well they just bought some PLR crap. I've seen the same graphics everywhere. But, offering bonuses isn't a ploy. Don't knee-jerk to thinking all of it is a ploy. It is about being honest.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Your gut reaction is becoming the new norm. We, as marketers, need to get past that by breaking the usual pattern.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Very true. You can read all about internet marketing by just reading direct-response books from the 70's. :-)

  • http://cashwithatrueconscience.com/rbblog Ryan

    Hi David,

    I appreciate your insight :)

    The RealNess factor puts you over the top. I think of it as creative showmanship. Hyping a product is a sign of desperation. It's the lazy marketers way of advertising: trying too hard to tap into human emotions without taking the time to create substance to back it up.

    Creating a crafty launch by providing value in an unmistakably original manner is what creates a buzz. As you mentioned the high quality videos achieved this goal.

    Be real. Stay real. When feeling as if you've strayed from being real move back to adding value with flair. Impress this idea on your mind 1000 times a day. Really.

    Thanks again!

    Ryan

  • http://kathynicholls.com Kathy Nicholls

    In the busy world we are all in, I think what happens for me is when I see the same thing coming over and over again from several different people, I just put on a filter and start ignoring it. While I do realize the value of affiliates spreading the word, when you follow some of the same people, it becomes overload. I did BMC because of your live event on UStream. Someone I follow had recommended it, I was curious, and that live event did more to tell me what I would actually get than any sales page could have done. It also made you real and that helped.

    I also do a lot of my reading now in Google reader. Recently some of my frustration has come that someone will offer a great free product, but of course you have to sign up on the list to get it. If I really want it, I do that, but then I end up unsubscribing soon afterward because I don't want my email box flooded. Not sure there's an answer to that one because I have a free report on my site that operates the same way. Just a comment. I may still buy the product in these cases, but I won't do it because I'm on a list that gives me yet another email.

    I don't respond well to launches that tell me I have to watch a different video every day for a week before I can really get to the meat of what something is and what the investment is. If I have to do that, it's not likely that I will do it simply because my time is too short.

    I'm fortunate to be in a group where they aren't used to product launches. Still, in the end, it comes down to trusting the person you're buying from. It is about building relationships and offering value. In a short survey I just did with my biggest list, it's pretty clear that people do like live events. Even when the products are digital, hearing someone explain it just makes it more real for people.

    Thanks for asking David. The topic has been on my mind a lot as I have felt a bit inundated with offers lately.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    “Creating a crafty launch by providing value in an unmistakably original manner is what creates a buzz.”

    I really like that quote, Ryan. Well said.

  • http://www.gphoenix.org/graham-phoenix-web-sites/ Graham Phoenix

    For me the issue is about market and product type. There are too many launches in a small market. There are plenty of markets other than blogging and making money on the internet. If we don't have the creativity to find a new market, a different niche, then eventually it will all seize up.

    My plea is for people to create new, different, products and open up markets that are not yet served. Let's so what we are passionate about rather than what everyone else does. Let's be creative not just in how we launch, but also in where and what we launch.

  • http://www.ericaswansondesign.com Erica

    I've read both Marissa's and Dave's articles (both were excellent) and this is a HEATED issue. I see the issue being cut, decidedly, into two camps; those who market and want to do so effectively and “authentically” (I'm really beginning to hate that word) and those who (seem) to think that people who sell things on the internet are somehow evil, grubbing thieves. I know it's not that cut and dry; I'm generalizing (horrifically, I realize. Brevity is under-rated). But at the end of Marissa's post (which Charlie moderated brilliantly), the whole discussion devolved into a capitalism vs. “marketing from the heart” discussion.

    Blehck.

    So here's what I want. I want to know that “internet marketers” aren't ashamed to sell their cool shit (if it IS cool, natch). I want to know that “from the heart” marketers (whatever the hell that means) are just selling a different way – not a better way – but a different way. On some level, everyone is SELLING. Some are simply more discreet and subtle about it and focus more on relationships and connections but not doing so does not make a marketer dishonest and evil.

    There is nothing inauthentic or unethical about selling products (genius products, even) on the internet. There is nothing inauthentic or unethical with wanting to help others succeed in their business. And there is absolutely nothing inauthentic or unethical with wanting to make a living doing so.

    So I want to cut the “capitalism” bullshit that I'm seeing and get to a point where we'll all discussing and brainstorming and creating new and innovative ways to bring what we offer to the table without having to apologize to do so. If you’ve got cool shit, for crying out loud, feel free to let me know.

    I am, after all, perfectly capable of deciding what I want to buy and where I want to place my support. That’s it. Like it? Buy it. Don’t? Hit delete.

    Yeesh.

    PS – I don’t launch a thing. But I do operate a digital business. For, you know, “authentic clarity”.

  • eblogr

    It is bound to happen. We evolve as humans so must our marketing techniques. There was a time when the long form sales letter was king, but video killed the letter, now people are getting tired of the three-pack video, something else will kill it.

    I'm guessing that person will be as big as Jeff Walker. I like the idea of uStream, an the contests. It is all about making it an event.

    Apple losing one its newest iPhones in bar sounded suspicious to me. Maybe you will have to forget one of your BMC CD's at a conference somewhere, David :-)

  • http://www.nextlevelblogger.com/about Christian Russell

    The WAY people buy is changing fast, but the REASONS they buy will never change. If you sell stuff, some people are just going to complain. Except of course…all your happy customers :-) Those are who you're trying to find, and they are all that matters.

    I honestly think the only people are *launch fatigued* are those are aren't in the target market any way. I mean…if you're reading so many MMO blogs that you're just plain sick of seeing launches, there are only two explanations…

    1. you're either in the business yourself (i.e. you have nothing to complain about…it's your JOB to consume this content) or…

    2. you're way too busy reading way too much content, instead of actually USING what you learn and applying it in your business.

  • http://www.Owen-McGab-Enaohwo.com Owen McGab Enaohwo

    What tips do you have for creating and holding a webinar?

  • http://www.gurls-asylum.us Gurl

    I agree on offering something I KNOW is PLR, especially if it is something I've already picked up myself for free. However, I know offering a little something extra is a great way to entice buyers. But I hate when I am offered what looks like 100 bonuses. Offer me one, really awesome bonus and I will probably be all over your offer. When you offer too many, the consumer gets fatigued just scanning your list of them. I know that it deters me from even considering buying.

  • http://nathanhangen.com/blog Nathan Hangen

    Mike and I interviewed Gwen Bell about this yesterday and her take was along the same lines…it takes years, not days or weeks.

  • http://www.mikeslife.org Mike CJ

    Just finished writing the sales page:

    It's good
    It's about interesting people
    It's well written
    You'll enjoy it

    *Add to Cart*

  • http://www.ericaswansondesign.com Erica

    Mike, that was brilliant. :)

  • Bitey

    Yes, engaging other people to create content for you is good. But as a buyer I really prefer the Unlauch strategy you linked to. As someone who wants to focus on money when I look for money information, I don't have time to wade through videos that do not offer specifics. Reading cuts the crap faster and easier by far because you know you should skim or skip testimonials and just scroll down for the price and bonuses. Did anyone see that waste of time where a guy played guitar for half the video, then made the shocking pronouncement that you can make money if you sell what people want to buy? He took 20 minutes to do it! My new rule is that if I can't skip ahead 5 minutes into a video and see something interesting, I just jump ahead another five minutes, run it in the background while I do real work, or skip it altogether.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Good point.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Interesting feedback. However, regarding that “unlaunch”, you would likely have never seen that unless I linked to it. And that's my point… How are you going to get any attention if you bar off doing any marketing?

    Marketing isn't sleazy. It can be done in a sleazy way, but in and of itself, it isn't sleazy.

    As for the guy playing guitar, chances are you weren't his target market. For people who jive with him, it'll resonate. Not all content is designed for everybody.

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    I've got a very in-depth article inside my Inner Circle program on that topic. :-)

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Hah!

  • http://davidrisley.com David Risley

    Yeah, so much tunnel vision out there. So much.

  • http://www.theinfopreneur.net/ TheInfoPreneur

    I always like the server crashes also…or “sent a wrong link” yesterday. come on.

    I think you handle your marketing fine. It's built upon trust and loyalty and that's where it starts.

    But can you please start adding about 5 more layers of upsells to them??? That way they are consistent with everyone else's?
    Kidding. :)

    Brandon

  • Bitey

    Not all content is designed for everybody, but taking time away from the purpose of the video (answering what the product is and what it does) is not good. It's like hearing about a great new way to cut your travel time from one city to another…then watch the video for a half hour and it's finally revealed that it's a car! Watch the next two hours of videos to find out more! If you've never heard of a car before, you probably have more to learn than two hours of video could teach.

    “Adding real value” is a cliché because it's good. It's not *sleazy* to waste viewers' time, but if a marketer does waste time it looks like the product is only for people with lots of time to waste. If there is so little content that the marketer has to hold back on the secrets of the course after 20 minutes of video, that makes it look very bad.

    Maybe the lesson is “don't hold back when you describe your product” or “if you DO hold back, people should assume your product is fluff.” That's a little harsh, but real value is obvious in a 2 minute video or 20 minutes.

  • thesbc

    Gotta go back to what @remarkablogger and @dave said about an hour ago…..I completely agree about opting out of launch promotions to avoid singing what's already been sung. If 20 people are marketing to the same list – the fat lady has sung….it's over. I mean, how many launches did we see in May for “Cash-Flow,” List-Building, and dozens more. That's the way you have to play it, even if you are leaving some sales on the table. Here's my take: While this would have probably come to a head at some point in the near future, it's been accelerated by all the same-platform co-ops, partnerships and jv's. We all felt the economy crunch (however big or small) and co-oping or tag-teaming has served us well. Now that we're list sharing, we've got to diversify again – and carve our own individual paths. Being an affiliate and having affiliates is great, but if they have the same list…well – you can see where that would be a problem. Thanks Dave for addressing this – it's a hot topic…obviously.