Screw You, Domain Renewal Group

Anybody who is in this business owns one or more domain names. In many cases our WHOIS records for our domains contain our contact info, including address. This allows companies like the Domain Renewal Group to fetch my information (or your’s) and send you a “renewal notice” for your domain.

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The above is a scanned image I recently got for one of my domains. I have gotten MANY such notices from this company. Here is my problem with this:

  1. They purposely make it look like a bill. This is no doubt designed to get people to accidentally change their domain name to these guys from its current registrar. A lot of people (rather naively) pay bills quickly without truly looking it over. And I bet these guys have gotten a lot of new “customers” because the person thought it was a bill.
  2. Even seeing through the above, their pricing is ridiculously high. I can renew my domain far cheaper at GoDaddy. When you visit the company’s website, you see that $30/year will get you basic hosting, too. This is not clear on this promotion.

I find this kind of promotion deceiving. It is designed to hopefully fool people into changing their domain to these guys. As a guy who is trying to help others get into this business, people who may not be totally up to speed on how these things work, I hate to see companies like this seemingly trying to take advantage of them.

BTW, according to this blog post, this company also goes by the name of Domain Registry of America and Liberty Names of America. That’s probably correct because I’ve gotten mail pieces from these names as well.

Use a reputable domain registrar guys. I personally recommend GoDaddy.

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  • C Mulinix

    I got the letter from Domain Renewal Group today and had my checkbook ready before deciding to Google the name. Thank goodness, it led me to you and saved me $30. Thanks for the information.

  • http://tulipsociety.com/ Tara Diane

    I received one of these letters a few days ago and thought “huh, I didn’t register through them… and I’m not paying 30 dollars to renew.” This is definitely deceiving and practices like this should be made illegal.

  • http://tulipsociety.com Tara Diane

    I received one of these letters a few days ago and thought “huh, I didn’t register through them… and I’m not paying 30 dollars to renew.” This is definitely deceiving and practices like this should be made illegal.

  • Bill

    I recieved the exact “notice” from the Domain Renewal Group as you have posted here. The way it is presented led me to percieve it as a notice of “maintenance” for my present domain provider. The key word is “switch today”, prompting to this research them and find this sight. It reminds me of the companies sending out false virus notices to entice people to buy thier software to “fix” the notice they sent out! What a world, what a world.

  • Bill

    I recieved the exact “notice” from the Domain Renewal Group as you have posted here. The way it is presented led me to percieve it as a notice of “maintenance” for my present domain provider. The key word is “switch today”, prompting to this research them and find this sight. It reminds me of the companies sending out false virus notices to entice people to buy thier software to “fix” the notice they sent out! What a world, what a world.

  • http://www.stormcab.com/ Justin

    Absolute top man, I just sat down in front of my laptop ready to pay this bill for £65 for 5 years, when I Googled this company just in case it was a scam. Your site came up about 3 down and just saved me big time. Thank you very much for sharing this with the world, and I owe you a drink.

  • http://www.stormcab.com Justin

    Absolute top man, I just sat down in front of my laptop ready to pay this bill for £65 for 5 years, when I Googled this company just in case it was a scam. Your site came up about 3 down and just saved me big time. Thank you very much for sharing this with the world, and I owe you a drink.

  • Kirk

    I just called the 800# on the letter and asked them to remove my mailing address. The guy was polite, and it only took a minute.

  • Kirk

    I just called the 800# on the letter and asked them to remove my mailing address. The guy was polite, and it only took a minute.

  • Bluehost Blues

    Bluehost keeps my physical address private, listing my site under their business address instead. BUT for the first time I received this scam letter from Domain Renewal Group. This means either:

    1: Bluehost sold my physical address info.
    2: Domain Renewal Group challenged to obtain my legal physical address from Bluehost, and they were tricked/caved.
    3: ???

  • Bluehost Blues

    Bluehost keeps my physical address private, listing my site under their business address instead. BUT for the first time I received this scam letter from Domain Renewal Group. This means either:

    1: Bluehost sold my physical address info.
    2: Domain Renewal Group challenged to obtain my legal physical address from Bluehost, and they were tricked/caved.
    3: ???

  • Bluehost Blues

    by the way, my mailing address is not listed anywhere on my website (it is a porn site, so I have good reasons) and I have been successful up till now to not have it leaked. Where do I rage: Bluehost or Domain Renewal Group?

  • Bluehost Blues

    by the way, my mailing address is not listed anywhere on my website (it is a porn site, so I have good reasons) and I have been successful up till now to not have it leaked. Where do I rage: Bluehost or Domain Renewal Group?

  • http://www.pcmech.com/ David

    Bluehost Blues,
    Most likely they got your address from the WHOIS database, associated with your domain. Your host has nothing to do with it.

  • http://www.pcmech.com David

    Bluehost Blues,
    Most likely they got your address from the WHOIS database, associated with your domain. Your host has nothing to do with it.

  • http://www.8DaDao.com/ James

    I am screwed up by this company. I got such a mail. I suspected at first. But then I thought I still need to trust people and paid $50 for two years. Later on, I noticed that I registered with less than $10/year before. And I got an email from them saying:

    The transfer and renewal of your domain name, … is
    not yet complete at this time.

    Reason:
    ——-
    1) The Domain name is currently in a “REGISTRAR-LOCK”
    status with …
    2) We require that you provide us with an EPP
    Key/Authorization Code from …

    Now I need to find out if I can get the $50 refunded and how.

  • http://www.8DaDao.com James

    I am screwed up by this company. I got such a mail. I suspected at first. But then I thought I still need to trust people and paid $50 for two years. Later on, I noticed that I registered with less than $10/year before. And I got an email from them saying:

    The transfer and renewal of your domain name, … is
    not yet complete at this time.

    Reason:
    ——-
    1) The Domain name is currently in a “REGISTRAR-LOCK”
    status with …
    2) We require that you provide us with an EPP
    Key/Authorization Code from …

    Now I need to find out if I can get the $50 refunded and how.

  • Annie Nunn

    Hi James,
    I know how you feel, I too paid my $65 for 2 years and got the same reply as you did, so I notified my bank to do a “hold” then emailed Domain Group with my complaint about dishonesty etc etc, and demanded a refund. Within 2 weeks I had been refunded my $65 no problem.
    Good luck, I guess that for every one that does something about it there must be hundreds who just “put it down to experience” which is what “Domain Group” are making $$$ from.
    Annie

  • Annie Nunn

    Hi James,
    I know how you feel, I too paid my $65 for 2 years and got the same reply as you did, so I notified my bank to do a “hold” then emailed Domain Group with my complaint about dishonesty etc etc, and demanded a refund. Within 2 weeks I had been refunded my $65 no problem.
    Good luck, I guess that for every one that does something about it there must be hundreds who just “put it down to experience” which is what “Domain Group” are making $$$ from.
    Annie

  • http://www.8DaDao.com/ James

    Thanks, Annie. They already cashed my check so bank can not hold any more. But I will try my best to get it back. It is not money issue, but feel bad being cheated.

  • http://www.8DaDao.com James

    Thanks, Annie. They already cashed my check so bank can not hold any more. But I will try my best to get it back. It is not money issue, but feel bad being cheated.

  • Annie Nunn

    I’m sure you will get refunded James, I paid by credit card which was an immediate payment and yet they still refunded money back into my account.
    Think positive and good luck!

    Annie

  • Annie Nunn

    I’m sure you will get refunded James, I paid by credit card which was an immediate payment and yet they still refunded money back into my account.
    Think positive and good luck!

    Annie

  • http://www.rss6.com/ Cathy

    There are far too many scams going for domain renewals. My box gets bombarded with fake renewal letters. Someone not paying attention might actually think it’s a bill. It’s not! It’s junk mail!

  • http://www.rss6.com/ Cathy

    There are far too many scams going for domain renewals. My box gets bombarded with fake renewal letters. Someone not paying attention might actually think it’s a bill. It’s not! It’s junk mail!

  • http://www.discountedwebhosting.net/ Kenny

    Even in the UK, I get those mail outs from Domain Registry of America. You’re right, they are incredibly deceitful and designed to scare unwitting domain owners into renewing their domain with them. I now register every domain privately.

  • http://www.discountedwebhosting.net Kenny

    Even in the UK, I get those mail outs from Domain Registry of America. You’re right, they are incredibly deceitful and designed to scare unwitting domain owners into renewing their domain with them. I now register every domain privately.

  • http://1to1million.com/ JD

    Yeah I got one of those sent to me in Australia and I have helped 5 friends this year, to cancel debits they subscribed to online and can’t figure out how to get out of. I use Godaddy as well (always using a coupon code at checkout), the up-sell minefield is annoying but otherwise I am happy.

    Domain Renewal Group – Scam

  • http://1to1million.com JD

    Yeah I got one of those sent to me in Australia and I have helped 5 friends this year, to cancel debits they subscribed to online and can’t figure out how to get out of. I use Godaddy as well (always using a coupon code at checkout), the up-sell minefield is annoying but otherwise I am happy.

    Domain Renewal Group – Scam

  • Dizzle

    Just received a letter here in the UK from the Domain Name Renewal group. I own a lot of domains and have heard nightmare stories about such companies in the past but have never received one of their letters before now. I can see why a lot of people may get sucked into this crap but at least your blog post is right up there in the Google UK results when searching for “domain renewal group”.

    Fill the return envelope full of dirt and send it back to them.

  • Dizzle

    Just received a letter here in the UK from the Domain Name Renewal group. I own a lot of domains and have heard nightmare stories about such companies in the past but have never received one of their letters before now. I can see why a lot of people may get sucked into this crap but at least your blog post is right up there in the Google UK results when searching for “domain renewal group”.

    Fill the return envelope full of dirt and send it back to them.

  • iigruntii

    You are a real life saver. I started to fillout the online form, but when I did not enter into a secure area when entering in my credit card information I grew suspicious.

  • conte

    One week ago i received a similar letter in Austria, Europe – pricing was 28,-€ for one year. I indeed first thought it was a bill they sent me and was about to call my registrar, because i just payed that bill.
    thanks for the post.

  • Too Many Anyones

    Useful warning. Thanks. I'm in the UK and also got one of these letters. As suggested by JC (below) returning their envelope (filled with junk mail) and no stamp will cost them twice the postage to receive. As long as they accept enough of these fake returns at least it will cost them in postage and time. Why not just spam them once a week with mail addressed to “Domain Renewal Group, 56 Gloucester Rd, Suite 526 London UK SW7 4UB (without a stamp!)”, Hit back at these leeches.

  • Rols

    My mother almost sent off this renewal (for 5 years) after receiving it at home after I'd moved out. I asked her to scan me a copy and was astounded. If you read it carefully you can tell that it's soliciting business, but it fooled my mum.

  • http://www.sibsonimages.co.uk/ Melvyn Sibson

    They're doing it in England now. They have an office in London.
    I thought it looked like a cheap scam.
    Thanks for heads-up

  • mds_skidmore

    domain renewal group has cause us to lose our website that we just purchase with our business they not only mislead us by the bill but our website got shut down and they directed us to Melbourne which we couldnt get thru for days and no reply until weeks later from email and they said they never had our original acct. and now we lost our website and someone else has it that was the reason we bought this motorcycle business because of this large existing advertise site so they cost us thousands and now we are at such a lost on what recourse to do. any ideas?

  • http://finaltouchflooring.net/ clayton

    I received a letter/bill from the domain name renewal group , promptly paid the $95 & now my website is down ! What do i do now?

  • Frank C. Tannehill

    Hello David and thank you for giving us a heads up. I noticed that many other blog owners have wrote about this scam and think it's quite an admirable initiative: letting the people know they can get fooled. As you said the email looks quite real and if someone isn't really paying attention they can get fooled. Before answering to such letters do a domain name search and see what's what, check the Whois and see the expiration date and the service the domain is registered under.

  • Frank C. Tannehill

    Hello David and thank you for giving us a heads up. I noticed that many other blog owners have wrote about this scam and think it's quite an admirable initiative: letting the people know they can get fooled. As you said the email looks quite real and if someone isn't really paying attention they can get fooled. Before answering to such letters do a domain name search and see what's what, check the Whois and see the expiration date and the service the domain is registered under.

  • Efe

    Totally agree with Bluehost Blues.
    I use Hostmonster (Bluehosts’ sister company). I always opt for private registration on all my domains. What’s the point of that if these guys still have access to that info. I’m suspecting someone is selling info because I found this page on their site which clearly shows once you opt for privacy, all correspondence goes through them: https://www.hostmonster.com/privacy.html. So I’m going to call and find out how these guys got my home/billing address, which is actually totally different from my office address which appears on my site.

    I knew something was wrong immediately I saw the letter though because Hostmonster has never contacted me by mail before.

    Sad stuff

  • Jane Shaw

    Thank you, Mr Risley, for your plain speaking on this tedious subject. I received DRG's panicky letter just today and decided it was a scam, but thought I'd just Google their name to see what I could discover. Up came your name. I have enjoyed reading your comments. Tjhnak you.

  • Michael

    I just got a letter from them. Thanks to all of you who post on the internet that this is a scam. Luckily I remembered that I got that particular domain half a year ago so no way that was due for a renewal.

    Isn't there anything one can do to outlaw these idiots? Someone may actually pay them by mistake!

  • Bill

    Thanks from me also. Your alert showed up directly under their link whan I Googled them.
    They mailed a phony invoice my home address which is not shown on my website so they're up to no good.

    They have the morals of a Nigerian extortion racket.

  • JO

    Today I received the same letter.

  • David Risely

    your a dumb cunt hahahaha

  • Tim Moore

    That’s a great idea! I’m sending their returning envolope back, without a stamp and with a little note telling them what I think about them!

  • Johnniemaher

    I got the same letter. I’m with GODADDY and I rang them up and of course they told me it’s a ‘scam’. It’s terrible that this type of thing goes on.

  • Healthycolonics

    I keep getting the same letter’s, unfortunantly they caught me out last year and I sent them £20 UKpounds, thank goodness that’s all it was. Ive recently sent them a very large note to the address they provide 56 Gloucester Rd suite 526 London SW7 4UB….. and told them to GET LOST!!!!!!

  • Anne

    Yes, I received one of these today addressed to someone else, for a website that is “under construction”.

    The scammers must think that we are stupid.